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Why is "Alyonushka" (alyonushka.odessa.ua) on my Black List?

In my OPINION...

Based on the reports that I have received...

It APPEARS that this site/agency...

This agency has quite a few complaints and more & more guys asking e about them. Next complaint will land them on the Black List.

Guys are complaining that it is evident the agency is simply trying to make money off the translating fees and the girls are not really interested.

On guy wrote in Russian and they still charged him and didn't mention that he had written in Russian.

Lots of stories about the girl disappearing and the agency blaming the girl. It happens, but why so often with this agency? How does the guy ever know what the truth is?

One guy was asked to send flowers, and did. Through a different agency!! All correspondence stopped. He mentioned that the girls always seem to have a birthday shortly after you strike up a relationship with them. Has anybody noticed this?

Alyonushka (Alyonuoushka) alyonushka.odessa.ua 

Here is a n example letter from them. This is how a bad agency operates. Let me know if you have more info...

> Hello ****
> That was great to receive your message. Thank you. Let?s get to know each
other. Who knows, maybe we are meant for each other, regardless of the fact
that we live in different countries. Life has some strange ways sometimes.
> My name is Marina. I am a bit older than you. I am 40. A scary number,
isn?t it? Or maybe women are more sensitive to aging than men. Anyway, I am
not really scared because I know I feel and look younger. As the saying
goes, your life is just beginning after you turn 40. I already have some
life experience, but I am not living in the past. I prefer to remember good
things. I am divorced, but I am not disappointed with family life and
marriage.
> My son?s name is Vadim. He is 16. he lives with me only half time. Now
that he is older he prefers to live with his father.
> Are you close with your son? How old is he?
> What are the basic traits of your character?
> I am very responsible, reliable and determined, sometimes to a fault.
That?s why my boss thinks I am a perfect employee (smile). I work as an
engineer in a small firm specializing in freight forwarding. And what is
your occupation?
> I don?t know much English. I can speak a bit, and understand more,
however I think if we meet in person we would need someone to assist us, at
least in the beginning. I am afraid my English won?t be enough. This letter
is also translated. When I tried to write something myself I could do only
?my name is Marina. I live in Odessa? and a few more simple sentences like
that from a school program. As far as I understand you are interested not
only in my appearance, but you want to get to know me as a person. Hence
the necessity to use an interpreter who can express my words in English
properly.
> Well, I think I gave you basic information about myself. The only thing I
want to add is that I would prefer to correspond in the view of a meeting
in real life eventually. So please feel free to write me long letters and
send me your photos. I would like to make sure I am attracted to you (and
that I will recognize you when I see you :--) I attach my photos for your
consideration too.
> Hoping for your approval and interest
> Take care
> Marina
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> Translated and sent by International agency of acquaintances "Alyonushka"
> Translation and forwarding of 3 first letters from you and 3 first
letters from a woman to you is free!
> Then you have to contact us to continue using these services.
> Business e-mail address: info@alyonushka.odessa.ua
> The web site address: www.alyonushka.odessa.ua
> (copy and paste this address into address line of your browser)
> We render the following services for you:
> "  Translations, invitations required for Ukrainian visa opening, meeting
at the airport,
> private apartments in the downtown, car rentals. Preliminary reservations
are recommended.
> "  Gift and Flower delivery - want to make a pleasant surprise for your
lady? No problem!
> We will deliver you a gift, take a picture off and send it to you.
> You can use this service, even if you are not our member.
> "  Many other services and useful tips

UPDATED FORM LETTER...

For your Info ...
Thanks for the website.  
****


Hello ****
That was great to receive your message. Thank you. it is hard to talk about myself
so feel free to ask questions. I am not really talkative, to be frank.
I am 41. Well, I know I feel and look younger. As the saying goes, your life is just
beginning after you turn 40. I already have some life experience, but I am not
living in the past. I prefer to remember good things. I am divorced, but I am not
disappointed with family life and marriage.
I have a son. His name is Vadim. He is 17. he lives with me only half time. Now that
he is older he prefers to live with his father. He finished school and now he is at
the university.
You don’t have children. Do you think you would want to have a child of your own in
future?
What are the basic traits of your character?
I am very responsible, reliable and determined, sometimes to a fault. That’s why my
boss thinks I am a perfect employee (smile). I work as an engineer in a small firm
specializing in freight forwarding. And I often work long hours. And what is your
occupation?
I don’t know much English. I can speak a bit, and understand more, however I think
if we meet in person we would need someone to assist us. I am afraid my English
won’t be enough. At least that's the situation is for now. This letter is also
translated. When I tried to write something myself I could do only “my name is
Marina. I live in Odessa. I have a son” and a few more simple sentences like that
from a school program. As far as I understand you are interested not only in my
appearance, but you want to get to know me as a person. Hence the necessity to use
an interpreter who can express my words in English properly.
Well, I think I gave you basic information about myself. Please feel free to write
me long letters and send me your photos. I would like to make sure I am attracted to
you (and that I will recognize you when I see you :--) I attach my photos for your
consideration too.
Hoping for your approval and interest
Take care
Marina

__________________________________________________________________
Translated and sent by International agency of acquaintances "Alyonushka"
Translation and forwarding of 3 first letters from you and 3 first letters from a
woman to you is free!
Then you have to contact us to continue using these services.
Business e-mail address: info@alyonushka.odessa.ua
The web site address: www.alyonushka.odessa.ua
(copy and paste this address into address line of your browser)
We render the following services for you:
"  Translations, invitations required for Ukrainian visa opening, meeting at the
airport,
private apartments in the downtown, car rentals. Preliminary reservations are
recommended.
"  Gift and Flower delivery - want to make a pleasant surprise for your lady? No
problem!
We will deliver you a gift, take a picture off and send it to you.
You can use this service, even if you are not our member.
"  Many other services and useful tips

the BEST proof I've ever received...

From: Natasha nataly_od1975@bigmir.net
Sent: Saturday, ** May, 2009 ****
Subject: from Natasha

Hello XXXXXX
Thanks for sending your interest. I viewed your profile and yes, I would like to get to know you. I think that a meeting face to face is much better, but since we live in different countries correspondence can be a good start. I am glad that you have the same opinion. Yes, we could meet in Odessa.   I live in a small town near Odessa. Even though I like to socialize, I think it is better to live in small towns or suburbs of a city. I think people are kinder and more helpful in places like that. Do you agree? Tell me about your town please.  I am 33, and I have a 7 year old son. His name is Sasha. I have never been married, and my son and I live together with my parents. They look after him when I am at work.
What kind of business do you have? I have a business of my own too. I live by the estuary which has various therapeutic muds. So my business is to sell these muds and medicines made on the basis thereof.  I do not speak much English, my knowledge is basic, and that’s why the idea of searching for someone abroad seemed ridiculous to me at first. But I know cases when the language barrier between two people was overcome, first through using an interpreter, then trying to communicate alone using dictionaries. And that’s why I thought I would try too. My main motive is that I do want to get married. But I am a single mother, and men here prefer to have relationships with childless women. I am not getting any younger, and I do want to have a strong family. So if you and I decide to meet you would charm not only me but my son too :--)  I have a question. You don’t have children of your own. Do you think you could accept my son? Have you had any relationships with women who had children?  I’m very energetic, friendly and sociable. I like to communicate with intelligent people and I enjoy learning something new. I am not a complete vegetarian but I do prefer eating vegetables and fruits more than meat. I want to live as long as possible :--) and I do try to lead an active way of life.  I will send you pictures of me and my boy and I would like to receive a few of yours please. If you can relate to my words and if you like what you see, I would certainly tell you more about myself, my hobbies and about my son. I do have an interest in you, and I would like to get to know you better.
Write me back
Take care
Natasha

__________________________________________________________________
Translated and sent by International agency of acquaintances "Alyonushka"
Translation and forwarding of 3 first letters from you and 3 first letters from a
woman to you is free!
Then you have to contact us to continue using these services.
Business e-mail address: info@alyonushka.odessa.ua
The web site address: www.alyonushka.odessa.ua
(copy and paste this address into address line of your browser)
We render the following services for you:
"  Translations, invitations required for Ukrainian visa opening, meeting at the airport, private apartments in the downtown, car rentals. Preliminary reservations are recommended.
"  Gift and Flower delivery - want to make a pleasant surprise for your lady? No problem!
We will deliver you a gift, take a picture off and send it to you.
You can use this service, even if you are not our member.
"  Many other services and useful tips

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To: Natasha <nataly_od1975@bigmir.net>
Sent: Saturday, ** May, 2009 ****
Subject: Re: from Natasha


"Alyonushka"?
 
This agency has quite a few complaints and more & more guys are asking about them. Guys are complaining that it is evident the agency is simply trying to make money off the translating fees and the girls are not really interested.
One guy wrote in Russian and they still charged him and didn't mention that he had written in Russian.
Lots of stories about the girl disappearing and the agency blaming the girl. It happens, but why so often with this agency? How does the guy ever know what the truth is?
One guy was asked to send flowers, and did. Through a different agency!! All correspondence stopped. He mentioned that the girls always seem to have a birthday shortly after you strike up a relationship with them. Has anybody noticed this?
Alyonushka (Alyonuoushka) alyonushka.odessa.ua
 
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From: Natasha nataly_od1975@bigmir.net
Sent: Monday, ** May, 2009 ****
Subject: Re: from Natasha

Thank you for sending this. Should I send a positive commentary regarding this agency's services now?
My birthday happens to be on June 30, I guess it is too soon for you?

Bye
Natasha
 
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To: Natasha <nataly_od1975@bigmir.net>
Sent: Tuesday, ** May, 2009 ****
Subject: Re: from Natasha

No problem with a lady having a birthday unless gifts are to be demanded!

But I'm not the one that has been blocked from (EDITED WEBSITE IDENTITY), you're blocked from (EDITED WEBSITE IDENTITY)  though 'scam agency' :)

Have a nice day!

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From: Natasha nataly_od1975@bigmir.net
Sent: Tuesday, ** May, 2009 ****
Subject: Re: from Natasha

Thanks, I am not going to demand anything from you. And since you are the only person I wrote to, i guess i have to thank YOU that I have been blocked out.

Yes, I will definitely have a nice day and I am glad you have nothing to do with it. Don't bother to reply. Your messages will be deleted.
Natasha

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To: Natasha <nataly_od1975@bigmir.net>
Sent: Tuesday, ** May, 2009 ****
Subject: Re: from Natasha

As if I'm stupid enough to believe a 'Natasha' is actually writing these emails!

The IP address is tracking to Odessa city and Natasha, supposedly, doesn't live in Odessa city.

I merely reported facts to (EDITED WEBSITE IDENTITY), it is you scammers that broke (EDITED WEBSITE IDENTITY)  terms and conditions.

Now ..... fuck off

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From: Natasha nataly_od1975@bigmir.net
Sent: Tuesday, ** May, 2009 ****
Subject: Re: from Natasha

Well, it is your problem whether you believe it or not. I live in a town 30 minutes drive from Odessa. I don't have a computer at home, and since I happen to travel to the Odessa city every day for work, I check emails WHEN being in Odessa.
Goodbye
Natasha
 
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To: Natasha <nataly_od1975@bigmir.net>
Sent: Tuesday, ** May, 2009 ****
Subject: Re: from Natasha

But your work is the muds from the town where you live!

Funnier and funnier, you don't speak English but you can reply, and have it translated, so quickly in 3 minutes and 25 seconds from transmission to receive, to translate from English to Russian, to then write reply, to then translate from Russian to English and to thereafter transmit and for me to receive and all in 3 minutes and 25 seconds!!!!!

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From: Natasha nataly_od1975@bigmir.net
Sent: Tuesday, ** May, 2009 ****
Subject: Re: from Natasha

No, there is nothing funny. It happens to be evening in Odessa, so I am done with my work, and when I check mail it means that I have an interpreter sitting beside me. Your messages a 3-4 sentences long so it does not take much to translate, don't you think?
No, I am NOT working in the muds. I told you my job is to sell muds. Obviously it is profitable to sell them in the city and not in my town where these muds are around the corner.
Anyway, it doesn't go anywhere, and i have to drive home.
Goodbye
Natasha

__________________________________________________________________
Translated and sent by International agency of acquaintances "Alyonushka"
Translation and forwarding of 3 first letters from you and 3 first letters from a
woman to you is free!
Then you have to contact us to continue using these services.
Business e-mail address: info@alyonushka.odessa.ua
The web site address: www.alyonushka.odessa.ua
(copy and paste this address into address line of your browser)
We render the following services for you:
"  Translations, invitations required for Ukrainian visa opening, meeting at the airport, private apartments in the downtown, car rentals. Preliminary reservations are recommended.
"  Gift and Flower delivery - want to make a pleasant surprise for your lady? No problem!
We will deliver you a gift, take a picture off and send it to you.
You can use this service, even if you are not our member.
"  Many other services and useful tips
 
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 Thereafter I got bored but I believe the point has been proven :)

* Jim's Notes - She asked for a birthday present and then denied doing it. Then she insults the guy.  Notice that hs has an answer for everything? Oh, she just happens to be in Odessa. She checks email in the night, after work. (OK, no problem with that. ) Ohhhh....she just happenes to have a translator sitting beside her. 


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