on New Scams
This is not
advice on dating Russian women. I think every man knows how to date
advice on how to avoid being scammed. Always check here for new ones.
(Visa, passports, email servers and culture info has been moved to "Facts" page.)
scammed? Maybe? She asked for money? Read this page, then go here for
a Russian woman asks for money, it’s a scam. Why won't you believe me?!!!!!!
and simple. A Russian woman would NEVER ask for money or complain about
her financial situation. I live here, I know. They don't earn a lot,
but that's changing. People aren't poor like 10 years ago. Jobs are
paying better now and many people have a lot of money. Making ends meet
isn't hard as it used to be. If you get a letter where she complains
about her low paid occupation, sick relative or broken computer, be
careful. It’s the first step of the money whine. Russian
girls are proud and never outright ask for money. READ!!!! Any
girl talking about tickets, visas, travel agencies or marriage should
be avoided...or at least google her name when she does it. GOD
YOU GUYS...WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- If she asks
you to send her money to come and meet you.
scammers have realized that the "I love you - send me money" scam is
working anymore, so the last resort to try and get money is the
tickets/visa scam. NO nice, everyday girl
would ever do this. They would never fly to another country to meet a
guy they never bet before. You might be an ax-murderer. Read the visa page about visa problems.
- If she tells you that she uses an
agency and needs money to pay.
charge men and don't charge women. Any girl that says this is either
working with the "agency" or doesn't exist and it's someone with photos
of pretty girls, sitting in a room, writing letters, and taking your
- If she wants to meet you in a
girls have no problem writing letters for months simply to have a free
vacation. Why would you pay for 2 tickets? Go to her country.
- If she loves you after 3 weeks or
girls are intelligent and they don't fall in love like mindless morons.
They are well aware that love needs time, and for goodness' sake, a
face to face meeting.
- And the strangest, most difficult
is a big (Ukraine-style) scam. You correspond, you talk on the phone,
you go and visit. You pay for everything, taxis, interpreters, gifts,
you go back home. The girl loves your time together, you continue to
correspond and maybe visit again. Where's the scam? The agency is
making a fortune from your letters and visits, they want it to
continue, but the never had any intention of a future with you. How can
you spot this scam? You can't. Read reports on your agency before you
get too deeply involved.
- Good news. There are NO MORE new scams by girls. There is only ONE
type of scams that the girls do these days. The travel scam. If your
girl states that she wants to visit you and that she went to a travel
agency, this is the scam. If you get a letter from a travel agency, it
is a scam. The visa/passport/travel scam is the only scam that girls
are doing these days. It is the only scam that works now. So, they have
no choice but to use it. Girls never visit guys that they have never
met before, it is TOO dangerous in our world these days.
(MAY '09) - Because these scammers send
out so much spam, guys get many letters out of the blue. Many guys then
ask the girl where she got his email address. This is a canned response
that is used a lot and if you ever see it, you know it IS a scammer.
Here is the scammer reply to avoid - "I went to the internet cafe and I
told them that I wanted to meet a foreign man and they gave me your
- This is actually not new, it is VERY old. But I thoughtg that it was
so easy to see, I didn't need to warn guys about it. But, I guess this
scam happens to guys that are not aware of Russian scammers. If you
join a regular dating site and either write to a girl or get a letter
from a girl, then after one or 2 letters from her, she reveals that she
is Russian and she had to list her country as yours because the site
would never let her join because she is Russian - DROP HER
IMMEDIATELY. This is how scammers find unsuspecting guys.
A real girl would never do this.
- NEW (July
- There is a new trend in scamming. It is getting a lot of guys and
making the owners very rich. The worst part is that most of the guys
have no idea that they are being scammed. New dating websites (for FSU
girls) are being set up. They are not agencies, just regular dating
sites. They are fake. They are a scam. They are easy for me
see because I have been operating my site since 1999. How can you spot
them? Quite easily. They are good looking web sites with thousands of
women. And ALL the women are BEAUTIFUL. This is IMPOSSIBLE. On any site
and at any agency, you get a variety of women. And as in real life,
there should be more average women than beautiful women. If you see a
site that has ALL amazing women, something is wrong. Ask me to check
one if I don't have it listed yet.
- I have recently noticed a huge change in scamming. There are far
fewer individual scammers and more groups. These groups are starting to
leave English sites and are targeting German, French, Spanish
Italian men. Because all antiscam sites are in English, the scammers
think that they can more easily scam non-English speaking guys. So,
that is why I have translated my main pages into these other languages.
TELEPHONES - Some guys are
saying that if a girl says that she has no phone or doesn't give you
her telephone immediately, that it is a sign of a scammer. THIS IS
FALSE!!!! Many Russian apartments do NOT have phones. And girls get
calls from some pretty crazy guys that scare them, so not giving their
contact info right away is a good idea. And if they accept calls from
abroad on their mobile phones, they have to pay a lot for it. IF
a girl immediately asks for YOUR phone number, this is a bad sign. And
if a girl calls you, this is 99% a scammer. These girls cannot afford
to call overseas to all the guys that write them. A scammer does it to
hook the guy. Trust me.
(Dec '05) - The
hi-tech scammer. They are putting scripts in their letters and when you
download the letters onto your computer mail server (Outlook Express,
etc), the script starts reading your computer; looking for credit card
information. Search your registry from time to time if you use your
computer mail server and have letters from Russian girls saved there.
(Oct '05) - HOT OFF THE PRESS!! A new scam
wherein the girl says that she is a US or British citizen in Africa.
They need money for one reason or another. They use photos of Caucasian
girls, so it looks real. Most likely they need help getting out of
Africa. Aren't these African scammers getting cleverer? If the Russian
stereotypical scammer is named Hairy Yuri, what shall we call the
African male scammer posing as a woman...Muscular Mumbasa?
(Sept '05) - I
now have 2 reports (one about Russian girls and one about African
girls) going to the states with a group of models. They need your help
to arrange the hotel or apartment for them. Time ranging from 1-6
months. You do the leg-work and receive a commission of some sort.
Somewhere in this you must open a bank account or something like that.
This is a scam. They have something planned and because you were the
one to arrange everything, you are liable for their scam.
(Aug 05) - New cheque cashing and deposit scams
are becoming more popular. They ask for your bank account and say they
will put money in it for you to transfer to someone else. Or to deposit
or cash a cheque. You can keep a portion as a commission. Everything
seems to be great. Then the FBI pr bank wants to know why you passed a
bad cheque or transferred money that didn't really exist. YOU are
liable for this money!
(Mar. '05) - Scammers
are now asking for your telephone number and calling you. If you check,
some calls are coming from the US. I think they are getting info on you
and either planning to scam you at home, or rob your house when you go
visit the girl. Another report is that when you call her, there is an
extra charge on the bill that they somehow get. Most girls don't give
out their home phone too soon into it.
(Apr. '05) - The
Lithuanian apartment scam. They contact you or you contact them and
they instantly want you to fly to them to meet them. You either pay for
the apartment in advance and lose your money, or you get there, meet
the girl, pay the apartment and then she disappears. How to spot the
scam? A girl wanting you to instantly fly to her without writing a few
letters is a bad sign. A girl telling you to use her contacts is a bad
sign. But the easiest way to see this scam...she will want you to stay
in an apartment because she doesn't want anyone seeing her visit you at
your hotel and think she is a prostitute. A good reason, but it gives
away these scammers.
(Jan. '05) - Someone
invested in a real tourist visa and is using it to scam. It looks real
and the girl says that she has a few weeks left on the visa before it
expires, but she needs money for the ticket...and of course, asks for
your help. Wow, great opportunity, right? Yes, to steal your money. I
repeat - GO TO HER COUNTRY! The visa on my homepage and Facts page is
the example of a visa no longer used by US Embassies.
- NEW (Jan. '05) - The new travel agency scam. Scammers are posing as
travel agencies rather than dating agencies. It looks great and they
can get visas and tickets for your girl. It's a scam. They are changing
their names almost every week. Use the travel agents on my travel page. Don't send an
unknown agency any money. ALL employees of travel
agencies in Russia are women!!! Notice that the fake agencies have men
as the person to send money to? You're talking to a guy!!
- A new breed of scammer is going to
cause problems. They let you go and visit them in their country. You
have a wonderful time and arrange to meet in a 3rd country for your
next meeting. After you send the money, she disappears. How can you
protect against this scam? Use the travel agents on my travel page. You can send the
money there and the girls can't take it.
- Groups of Russians already in the
US posing as girls in FSU. Letters come from FSU, through the office
there. One day, the girl says she is visiting the US and wants to meet.
(She has already investigated you.) Then she needs money for lawyer
fees, or for a relative to visit OR...she wants to visit home with you.
While you are away, your house is burglarized.
- A bad scammer will ask for money
after a few letters. A good scammer will wait a few months. A VERY good
scammer will wait 6-12 months. Time makes no difference. ANY time they
ask for money, it's bad!!
- Scammers and fake agencies are
using the same email servers for a time, then changing them. I guess it
is easier to keep track of possible victims this way. What this means
is that they will all use, for example, rbcmail.com, for a while, then
change it. It has taken a long time, but I now see the pattern. Like I
said, a real girl will use mail.ru, yandex.ru or rambler.ru. Other
servers being used by scammers right now are gawab.com and gmail.com.
(Yes, google mail. You need to be invited to get this address, so
scammers are inviting themselves.)
DON'T SEND MONEY!! If
you do, ask the clerk if this girl ask been sent money from other guys,
they can answer this. (Read here
about Western Union problems.)
- Don’t think that a woman
is serious because she is on an agency’s site or placed her
own ad and even wrote to you. Most girls do this because they are
simply curious about the result that her ad will bring. It’s
always free for them, so why not try. They might like the idea of a
foreign husband, but not ready to go through with it. Russian people
talk a lot more than they actually do.
- If a profile says absolutely
nothing, or the opposite, it sounds like a long, love story, it is
likely that the girl is not serious. And profiles where the girl says
she's a virgin, or loves sex, again, not serious.
- If she refuses to directly give
you her full name, address or telephone number when you ask for it.
There is no reason for her not to give it to you. And if she blames the
agency for this, ask the agency. A serious girl will also want to move
away from the agency.
- If you get prompt, regular, long
letters, it might be someone sitting on a computer all day writing
letters. These girls are busy and can't write all the time, or long.
You should get letters just like you get from friends. "Sorry, I can't
write much, I'm busy. I'll write more in a few days." Some girls now
have computers at home, but if she says she goes to an agency or cafe,
but still writes every day, I would raise an eyebrow.
- If she sends a photo with every
letter without you asking for it and never asks for your photo.
Usually, you already know what she looks like, so there's no need for
her to send a photo at all. And these girls are very interested in
seeing your photo. So, after exchanging photos once, the photo question
- If she changes her email address
suddenly, this could be a negative sign. Send an introductory letter to
her old address from your alias friend a couple weeks afterwards and
see what happens.
- Visas. It is difficult for FSU
citizens to get a visa to a western country. For Europe, maybe 1 in 20
can get one. The others are flat out rejected. For North America,
it’s about 1 in 100. (I’m very serious.) Anyone who
says, "I’ll get a visa in a 3-6 days." is lying to you.
It’s next to impossible. 3-6 days to hear that they were
- People who work at the airport
CANNOT get tickets at a discount. Even people who work at a travel
agency don't get a discount. A taxi is any car that stops and the cost
is about $2 for anywhere in the city. Maybe $5 or $10 for Moscow and
Kiev. A translator should cost about $5-10 a day. Or $50 a week.
- Many girls have many profiles.
It's free for them, so why not do it for a better chance at meeting Mr.
Right? But, if the information (name, age, city) is
different, it's probably a sure sign of a scammer. There are large
affiliate network of agencies. So, a girl could have a profile on each
affiliate. AND...many girls are so sincere, that they have their
removed after they start corresponding with someone special. Ask the
agency why her profile was removed, the answer should help.
- These girls can't afford to join a
pay matchmaking site, so if you get a response to your ad on a site
other than a free site, ask yourself how she has money to do this. Some
girls have time and a computer at work, so they can surf and reply to
(free) ads, but they usually sit back and wait for replies to their
ads. Some girls do have money to join pay sites, but then she should
have money to so things. NO girl asks for money!!!
- Of course, letters where she
doesn't answer your questions, or ask specific questions about you and
your life are a sign of something not right. They want to know you
before they can know if they want to be with you.
- If you happen to mention to a
scammer that you saw her on a blacklist (never do it) and she calmly
explains to you that she had a bad experience with a guy in the past,
and he put her on the blacklist; (this is what a scammer does when
confronted) so, ask yourself why she knows that she is on a
blacklist...and isn't worried about it. Wouldn't you be completely
shocked that you were found on a blacklist and do everything you could
to get your name removed from it? Scammers don't usually contact me.
Stray dogs don't complain to the dog catcher.
- There are cases where the woman
goes along with everything right through to the marriage, and soon
after, runs away. You could never protect yourself against this, but
always be looking for signs before you get to that point. (Read here for help with that.)
- If a girl has family already
living in your country, stay away fro her. Especially if she is from
Ukraine. She will use you to get there and either file for refugee
status upon arrival or wait until she gets her citizenship and then
leave you. These girls research this in detail and are ready to use you
to their benefit.
- If a girl tells you that her
family has approved of her moving abroad, she is feeding you a line to
relax your worried mind. Most Russians, especially older Russians and
especially those in the family don't believe in leaving Russia. They
are very patriotic and believe that Russians should marry Russians and
live in Russia.
Avoiding Agency Scams
is much more difficult. They are sly and constantly changing there
techniques. This is the best help I can give on a list. If you have
specific questions about techniques, features or agencies, just ask me.
of agency networks
- NEW (May
- Avoid ANY business proposal from ANY Russian or African. They are
usually bank scams. They put money in your account and then withdraw
most of it. They leave some for you. But then the bank or police come
and tell you that it was fraud and you are responsible for the money.
- Just because they say they are not
a scam and they are honest; that doesn’t mean a thing. Some
scam sites have a scammer page or warn about scammers. Don't let that
- If, after a few letters from a
lady, you get a letter from an agency, asking for money, forget them.
They let you talk with the girl to get you hooked so you'll pay. READ!!
The girls never pay to join an agency,
so if you get a letter saying "the girl's account is overdue", it's a
scam!! It's free for them. This is a big tactic now!! AND...
Ukraine law prohibits businesses from using Western Union!! (Read here about Western Union
- Be careful of special offers.
(E.g. monthly translating for $100.) Not that it’s a scam,
but it’s a classic technique of scamming you out of your
money in one shot. Check out
the "Standards" page
real costs (as well as a gift
- Agencies use ringers. (Beautiful
girls not interested in you. They are paid to have their photo on the
site. Why? To get your money.) Agencies use all the photos they have.
Some are years old. I can't help you with this one. Just be careful of
agencies with 1,000's of photos. And, agencies with very few photos.
- I just discovered a technique by
these makeshift agencies with no website who advertise their girls on
free sites. They take the profile off the site after they have received
a number of emails for the girl. This is so that there is no record of
her after you are scammed. Check for your girl's profile after a week
- Agencies don't want you to
communicate with the girls directly (or even become a couple). Why?
Because then the agency will stop receiving money. So, they tell little
lies. They tell the girls that the man has many other women or isn't
serious. They tell the man that the girl isn't serious or that they
have other good girls for you to meet. Once you have direct contact
(and get it quick), forget the agency and tell your lady not to listen
to them. The agency knows nothing about you, so your lady should
get a full address and telephone number (and keep money transfer
records) before sending money!! (Read here about Western Union
- If an agency refuses to give you
the full name, address and telephone number of a girl you are
corresponding with. Why would they do this? It's not very ethical. I'd
refuse to do business with them.
- If an agency says you have to go
to their country using their travel agency (which means you have to
send them money.)...NO! YOU arrange your own travel. Don't send money!
about Western Union problems.) Here is some tour
- Agencies don’t take a
girl’s photo off their site until she specifically asks them
to. There could be thousands of girls that forgot they joined an agency
and aren’t interested anymore, and simply don’t
know their photo is still on the site. That’s why the "join
date" or "last activity" features are good. Although the scam agencies
lie about the join date, and they check mail every day (whereas a real
girl has a life and can't check mail every day), so this applies to
universal dating websites, not the actually Russian sites.
- English level. Russian grades are
5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Corresponding to A, B, C, D, E in the West. Almost any
person can pass with flying colors and not speak a word of the
language. This number means nothing! Look for "No English", "Beginner",
Simple Sentences", "Proficient", "Fluent", "Bilingual". Ask the agency
directly how well she speaks English. And get a plain, understandable
answer. Or better yet, talk to her yourself. Call her house, not the
- Almost everyone goes to university
and gets a degree. So, when a 21-year old girl lists her occupation as
"Doctor", it means she finished medical university, but it
doesn’t mean she is an actual doctor. Don’t worry
about what is stated on her profile for this.
- Many sites hire a professional
photography to take photos for the website now. The agencies know that
a good site makes money; a bad looking site doesn’t.
Don’t worry about professional looking photos. But do be
careful about half-nude, (swimsuit magazine) beach and photos that look
like they are from a magazine. (Check out the "model"
- Some agencies plaster the girls'
photo with "Married" or "Engaged". If they can change the file to say
married or engaged over the photo, isn’t it even easier to
simply delete the photo? So, what’s the point of not deleting
it and writing married or engaged on it? Yes, it’s a
marketing ploy. Reputable agencies do it for their members, and that's
fine. But beware of unknown agencies that do this.
- Visas. Again, it is difficult for
FSU citizens to get a visa to a western country. For Europe, maybe 1 in
20 can get one. The others are flat out rejected. For North America,
it’s about 1 in 100. (I’m very serious.) Any agency
that says, "We’ll arrange a visa in a 3-6 days. Just send us
the money." is lying to you. It’s next to impossible.
- Here is an example of a sentence
translated by a computer program...
"When I saw him(it), I screamed(shouted)."
The brackets offer another option for the
translation. If you see this, it doesn't mean it's a scam, of course.
But you should be aware that it was done by a computer and ask the
person who did it "Why?". You can go to www.translate.ru
and translate things yourself. Ask the agency to send it in Russian and
see what happens.
- Be careful of profiles where the
girl says she's a virgin, loves sex, or their photo is a bikini photo,
half nude or their breasts are falling out of a shirt that is too
small. These girls are NOT serious.
- The "seeking age". 18 year old
girls who list their partner's age as 18-50. No, sorry, that's a sure
sign of something suspicious. As a guide, girls look for someone 10-15
years older than themselves.
- "We have a good standing with the
Better Business Bureau." This means nothing. The BBB rating system is a
joke! 2 complaints a year gives you an "excellent" rating. 3-5
complaints give you a "good" rating. Only Americans complain to the
BBB, and very few people do this. (I forgot, the BBB erases complaints
after 2 years, so you never really know how many complaints are against
get a full address and telephone number (and keep money transfer
records) before sending money!! (Read here about Western Union
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